Interviewee:  Alice Ellin Mackin (b. 03/31/1916 – d. 01/07/2007)
Interviewer:  Zoe Blaine         
Audio Number:  167
Duration:   00:35:14

Date:  July 10, 1988
Acquisition Number:  ACC#  

Topics Discussed:   Groom Creek stage stop; Mackin children (Evelyn, George, Emmett, Joe, Edward (died at 6 weeks) Lester Mary and Alice); Father’s death; Senator Mine; White Cloud Mine; Bennett family; Goldwater Lake; Mackin Acres; Peter, Joseph, Owen and James Mackin; Cripple Creek, Colorado; St. Joseph’s Academy; Grant Bennett; Eddie Andrews; Mrs. Otto Land; Mrs. Stanley Day; Schemmer family; Orthell Brothers; Ensminger’s  Soda Fountain; Jack Whitney; Hassayampa Inn; Ferrell Archer, Earl Passmer & Howard Duvall; Night Cap; Green Frog Café; Floyd Motor Company; Bishop Liquor Distributors; Coffee Cup Café; Baptist Camp; Lennox Maternity Home; JC Penney; Bob Gilmore; Bruno Rizzuniko; Albuquerque.

Time        Topic /Subject Discussed
00:00:47    Born 03/31/1916 – Groom Creek, AZ
00:00:52    Born at the old original stage stop
00:01:00    8 children in the family
00:01:07    3 girls 5 boys
00:01:21    Alice was the last child
00:01:23    Mackin Children : 
        Evelyn, George, Emmett, Joe, Edward (died at 6 weeks) Lester Mary and Alice
00:01:52    All children born in Groom Creek
00:02:03    Father was a miner
00:02:09    Operated stage stop and saloon
00:02:11    Was also a teamster
00:02:14    Hauled heavy duty equipment to the mine
00:02:23    Father was killed in 1919
00:02:33    Senator Mine
00:02:37    White Cloud Mine
00:02:42    Out Senator Highway by Groom Creek
00:02:55    Was hauling mine equipment
00:02:58    Accident happened on Senator Road
00:03:15    Hauling a big boiler
00:03:26    Chain broke
00:03:33    Father tried to jump from wagon
00:03:37    Caught foot in wheel – ran over him and crushed him from the waist down
00:03:45    Lived for about 3 days
00:03:48    Dad died on his 50th birthday at Mercy Hospital
00:04:06    Mother was a Bennett
00:04:11    Was born where Lake Goldwater is now
00:04:19    Bennett family had a ranch there
00:04:26    Father came from County Armagh, Ireland 1900’s
00:04:30    Met mother and married in 1902
00:04:34    Bough Mackin Acres, Groom Creek
00:04:46    Father and 4 brothers came from Ireland
00:05:02    Father Peter Mackin, brothers – Joseph, Owen, and James Mackin
00:05:14    All came from Ireland – ship “Majestic”
00:05:16    1900
00:05:25    Father and brother Joe went to Cripple Creek, Colorado
00:05:36    Jim Mackin went on to California 
00:05:41    Became first postmaster of Los Angeles, California
00:05:45    Brother Owen became lawyer, lived in Chicago, Illinois
00:06:00    Father and brother stayed in Cripple Creek, Colorado
00:06:13    Moved to Prescott
00:6:16        Both lived in Prescott until death
00:06:27    After father’s death, mother sent George and Evelyn to board at St. Joseph’s Academy
00:06:47    Uncle Kim supported with tuition
00:06:56    Rest of family stayed in Groom Creek
00:07:01    Mother had cattle, chickens, rabbits
00:07:04    Gardened and canned
00:07:13    At one time family owned all of Groom Creek
00:07:19    During hard times would sell off the land
00:07:23    1st sale went to Mormon Church – Upper Groom Creek
00:07:34    Had a dance hall
00:07:40     Mother and Uncle Grant Bennett build dance hall
00:07:46     Dances on Saturday nighty
00:07:50     All Groom Creekers would come
00:08:06    Made a little money
00:08:16    Moved to Prescott – first home is now West Yavapai Rehab Thrift Store on Montezuma
00:08:46    Mary, Lester and Alice went to school at St. Joseph’s Academy
00:08:52    Eddie Andrews – taught Alice to read 
00:09:14    Eddie’s father had a cigar street   on Cortez Street
00:09:22    Alice – 1st to 6th grade at St. Joseph’s Academy
00:09:37    Lived in town in winter, sometimes
00:09:40    Sometimes lived at Groom Creek
00:09:50    1 room schoolhouse at Groom Creek
00:09:55    Mrs. Otto Land
00:10:01    Lived in Groom Creek
00:10:10        Mrs. Stanley Day – previous teacher
00:10:23    Brother – Fren Schemmer
00:10:47    Gertrude (Schemmer)Day was teacher at that time
00:10:54    Had to walk in the snow
00:11:07    1 room schoolhouse
00:11:15    Brother was first to leave
00:11:24    Brother George was a ranger at Cherry Creek for 15 years
00:11:31    Sister Evelyn worked at Head Lumber Company
00:11:43    Worked for Mr. Orthell
00:11:44    Orthell Brothers
00:11:46    Worked for 28 years
00:11:57    Les stayed at the ranch
00:12:09    Les worked at Ensminger’s Soda Fountain
00:12:16    Les and Jack Whitney used to run soda fountain
00:12:28    Les an Jack moved root beer stand from where Dinner Bell is to Old  Mill location
00:13:03    Wheels still embedded in the steps
00:13:18    Les married
00:13:26    Bartender and bar manager at Hassayampa
00:13:40    Worked at Green Frog Café during war years
00:13;43    1945 – Les and Ferrell Archer bought the Night Cap
00:14:10    Corner of Miller Valley and Hillside 
00:14:30    End of town
00:14:42    Sold  share to Ferrell Archer
00:14:48    Took over faigrounds 
00:14:50    Ran fairgrounds for over 20 years
00:14:58    Put in race track
00:15:06    Jalopy Races – late 1930s
00:15:21    Built stables
00:15:24    Built Mackin building
00:15:41    Died June 1982
00:16:00    Never left Prescott
00:16:28    Uncle Emmet – “Mac” – trucker
00:16:40    Mac and his wife lived on Alarcon Street
00:16:44    Had a son – Emmett born in 1935
00:17:00    Mac lived in Bell CA
00:17:08    Mac and wife separated – Mac came back to Prescott
00:17:27    Mack died in 1950’s
00:17:48    Joe – Mechanic for Floyd Motor Company
00:17:56    Corner of Goodwin and Montezuma
00:18:06    Moved to Ash Fork
00:18:08    Worked for State Highway Shop
00:18:15    Died
00:18:27    George lived in Tucson, San Francisco then Prescott – worked for Bishop Liquor Distributors during World War II.                                  
00:18:55    George and wife Marie (Etherton) moved to San Francisco
00:19:13    Both worked for the ship yards
00:19:45    Mother married Claude Clyburn
00:19:50    Alice was  7 when mother remarried in 1922
00:20:12    Mother lived in Groom Creek
00:20:25    Claude was a cook
00:20:28    Worked for Yavapai County Sheriff’s office, Arizona Pioneer’s Home and Yavapai Hospital
00:20:52    1937 – Alice married Walter LeGrande Moll
00:21:07    Walter was from Wellington, Kansas
00:21:19    Came with CC camp to Prescott in 1933
00:21:26    Worked as a bell boy at the Hassayampa Inn for Ralph Hooker
00:21:33    Ferrell Archer was also a bell boy at the Hassayampa Inn
00:21:44    Earl Passmer and Howard Duvall also bell boys
00:21:57    Hassayampa Inn was built in 1928
00:22:06    Lived at 150 N. Alarcon  Street then
00:22:16    Mother would rent a big house then take in roomers and boarders
00:22:30    1930’s parents owned restaurant – Coffee Cup Café
00:22:31    Was  in building where current West Yavapai Guidance Thrift Store is now
00:22:53    1930  lived on Marina Street
00:23:09    December 1930 -  temperature was  26 below and lots of snow
00:23:38    Schools were not closed
00:23:50    Walk in Ice Box
00:24:05    Step dad broke off 100 pound icicles to keep meat fresh
00:24:37    Groom Creek property is still in the Mackin family
00:24:42    Late 1930’s Uncle Jim Mackin had property where the Ideal  Mine was
00:25:09    Uncle Jim died and left Mackin children 4 acres apiece (32 acres total)
00:25:17    After mother died, Baptists wanted property
00:25:29    Had property surveyed
00:25:44    Sold property
00:25:55    Baptist camp in Groom Creek is there now
00:26:12    Joe Mackin’s daughter still has some property
00:27:10    Anita Mackin   00:27:50    Indian hung
00:28:56    Hung on Indian Reservation
00:29:08    Alice’s daughter Barbara was born 09/1940 
00:29:28    Born on Mt Vernon – Lennox Maternity Home
00:29:51    Moved to California 12/1940 – Barbara 3 months old
00:29:48    Came back to Prescott 1944 – Divorced husband
00:30:16    1944 – 1st job back in Prescott – JC Penney
00:30:17    43 1/2 cents an hour
00:30:25    Paid room and board to mother and stepfather
00:30:28    Lived on Marina Street
00:30:37    JC Penney was on Gurley
00:30:50    Moved from Cortez Street
00:31:01    Woolworth’s store
00:31:11    Worked for Western Auto on Cortez
00:31:31    Mother passed away November 1945
00:31:43    Went to work for brother and Ferrell Archer at the Night Cap
00:32:09    Mr. Hale – manager of JC Penney
00:32:27    Took sack down to Penney’s and filled with toys for Barbara for Christmas
00:35:14    Black dress with  poinsettia
00:33:41    Worked at Night Cap
00:33:42    Night Cap burned down in 1945
00:34:03    Married Bob Gilmore
00:34:19    Ferrell  Archer build Ferrell’s Place
00:34:43    Sold to Bruno Rizzuniko (Bruno’s Place)
00:34:49    Ferrell and sister Mary moved to Albuquerque
00:35:09     End of Interview